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[Archived] Re: Jhouserock poll

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I just want to point this out before people start freaking out and clear some things up, since I've already see one person post about this, completely believing it to be true:

Jhouserock has on their site a poll that states, "Phantasmagoria, VIDOLL, and 12012 are going major. How do you feel about that as a fan?"

I just want to inform everyone that this is not official information. Jhouserock is not an official source of this type of information. I have not seen this announcement discussed on any of the Japanese sites like 2ch (where almost everything gets discussed, esp undercode), nor on grassthread, nor any mention on mixi either. If it had been officially announced, I'm sure it would not only be discussed on those places but also be announced in KISAKI-sama's blog prior to allowing any overseas company to tell about their plans.

So, for now, please please do not further spread this information as true. If it IS true, then Jhouserock has leaked the information, which is something you never do -- especially with bands you work with and want to continue working with. If it is NOT true, then they've just perpetuated that rumour and stated misinformation as truth, which is equally bad.

I'll put it this way: If the news is not from KISAKI himself, you should not trust it as official information! Even if it's announced at a live, such important information about the future of those three bands would be posted in his blog for sure.

I hope that clears things up for everyone. If anyone has any idea why Jhouserock has posted that in their poll when there's no official news backing it up, I'd like to know. Also, if you think I'm wrong for ranting about this or whatever, please tell me why (civilly, please; I don't want any drama :/).

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i heard about it it was also spoken on batsu but i think it's not true and i won't believe it till kisaki says it

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That was me not signed in.

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I won't say jhouse is great, they do have their faults, they have done alot for the american fans to bring us bands and loses money by doing so EVERY single time.

They don't lose money EVERY SINGLE TIME though. I'm tired of people saying that, especially since ACEN paid for three of the bands they brought over, and it didn't cost them a cent! Originally, they were ONLY a contact! Thats it! If they hadn't messed up so badly, they would still be bringing bands over to Acen, Akon, and many others.

"What does graduation mean" "Its like graduating from school, it the next step..."

"Does graduation mean your going major" "We don't know".

If thats not sidestepping a question...

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How can they lose money every single time? I have worked on staff for a con JPHouse brought bands to, and at that con, they didn't pay a single cent. The con covered the whole thing.

I am not privy to the financial workings of Oni, but Cure was a sponser last year, which is how I assumed they could afford it. Also, Undercode was a sponser as well.

Also, 12012 REFUSED to answer what graduation meant. Its because.. its still a secret :) I imagine that for contractual obligations they CAN'T announce it yet, that is pretty common when a band goes major.

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You know, Jpophouse's info is probably correct.

Just another reason to hate them :) (Working on con staff gets you all the good backstory).

Also, remember that Jpophouse doesn't pay to bring these bands over on their own, except possibly despair's ray. (Well, when ACEN worked with them ACEN fronted the ENTIRE bill of bringing the band over). When Phanta came to Oni, Cure was a sponser, which implies they paid some of the bill (and I would assume Oni pays for some as well). For 12012, wouldn't Oni pick up part of the tab?

Thanks for bringing this up. And I agree, if it had been officially announced it would be all over 2ch :p

Jpophouse has lost artists before by not keeping their tongue in check, you think they would learn o.o

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anonymous koutetsuhime
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I didn't mean that they were official -- I only meant that if it had been announced at a live (which is definitely official) or whatever, there'd be a big buzz about it at those places, and there isn't. That's all I meant. Sorry if I worded it wrong. The only places I consider official are Kisaki's blog/the blogs of those bands' members, or if it's been announced at a live (and usually then I double check for other reports of the same live and the official places to make sure).

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not to be rude, but mixi, 2ch, and glassthread are not "official" sources either. It's totally true that the Japanese fans would know these things before Americans, and all that, but don't discredit something as being "unofficial" and try to back it up with other unofficial sources, please.

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anonymous goshixcynicalis
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Hmm. I don't really have any opinion or bias either. But I think it was a good thing you did by posting a warning. There's nothing worse than believing something that's false, or spreading it around. Nasty rumors and problems get started that way.

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Thank you for posting this. Finally someone has SOME sort of sanity. <3

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i love your icon.

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anonymous koutetsuhime
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I don't particularly like them for a few reasons, but I kept my opinion out of this post save for that last bit (although it seemed to get inferred into it anyway). But yeah, I just wanted to point out that they're not an official source. ..; I apologise ahead of time if any huge drama breaks out. m( _)m

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anonymous koutetsuhime
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I'm not trying to discredit them -- how can I when they've never had credit in this kinda situation? The point, plain and simple, is that they are not a source of official information on the bands! The only way they are official is in announcing them playing in the US. Official sources = Kisaki updating his blog about it and/or the bands themselves announcing it at lives. Neither of which has happened. I just want people to be sure not to trust anything but official news.

My other point was simply that even if it IS true; Jhouserock leaked it (which they have done before), which is a very unprofessional thing to do. If it hasn't been announced in Japan, it should not be posted on their site, either, and I'm sure Kisaki would be very unhappy to see it there, also. They may have 'proof' but that is not the point here.

As for the drama, I didn't want any to start because I didn't want to bother the mods with it; not anything about myself. Also, I did not bring drama on myself because I simply pointed out a fact and wanted to stress it.

What have you done for the jrock community lately? Not much. First of all, that has absolutely -nothing- to do with this post, and it's a rather rude comment. Second, I do do things for the jrock community. It's not bringing bands over, no, but I do help the fans out, which is what I was trying to do here. I translate things and I do lyrics, so the overseas fans can know more about the band and sing along to the songs. I also support the bands by spending money on their releases. How is that doing nothing? :|

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anonymous chrome_hearts
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internets = serious business

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XD I noticed! I felt retarded and slow.

Yeah, I love John... but he loves to let secrets out if you ask more then once.

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Thank you for posting this. I don't really have an opinion towards Jhouserock one way or the other, but I'd like to make sure everyone knows that they are not official.

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Seriously? XD I want to go see and laugh.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of how jhouserock handles things either. (Though I like some of the people within the company(?)...). But, at the moment, that's the only (kinda) way to get bands over here. Which sucks too. XD. But yeah, I'm glad I didn't randomly go to jhouserock's site and get "WTF?" over it. ^^

I wonder who's bright idea it was to post that poll...

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urgh i hate jhouserock so much...

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anonymous koutetsuhime
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The person who originally pointed it out was on batsu. >x> lol but they didn't so much point it out as OMGITSTRUE!11.

Well, for me, I hope he finds out because I don't like how they handle things.. I want them to come overseas again, yes, just NOT through them. -wants them to play in a real venue pls- Bu~t that's not why I posted this. I just want to make sure no one starts flipping out or whatever. (^^;

That and I was pissed off when I found out that they did this. Dx

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I didn't notice that. x_o Granted, I haven't checked the site in a week or so... But either way, if they're wrong or right (about the info), that was a stupid thing to do because... well, you said everything. XD

Is it selfish to magically hope Kisaki doesn't find out? Or that he finds out and doesn't...care? (YEAHRIGHT!) Because, yeah. I need jhouserock to bring them to me. Don't need Kisaki hating them.

This makes me think of Batsu. :x

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